I dont like Stormfront although I know there are many good comrades in that forum, but most of Stormfront´s members are conflicting people: capitalists, national bolcheviks, nerds, separatists (ETA, etc), chauvinists and crazy people.

I think Stormfront is not 100% pro-white forum.

Another point is the Hispanic section of stormfront. The moderators from that section are very crazy and some of them look like mestizos.

Stormfront is not a good forum, thats my point of view.

I am going to disagree that forums are the way to go. VNN, well I wont comment on how the outside WN world views this place but lets just say its living up to its reputation very well. SF is a place for people to vent and get together and at times knock heads as are other self respecting forums. The only way we will get anywhere is by hitting the streets feet first.

It isnt what you say but how you say it, thats the key.

VNN is for the most part a WN free speech site. Everyone on here has been ridculed at one time or another. This is good in a way it will cause you to grow a thick skin to be able to battle our enemies better.

Most peole do not like free speech unless it is their oew free speech.

You seem to bad mouth VNN a lot. Do you know that we advertise storm front in most of our newspapers and even on our bussines cards? Does SF ever return the favor? No they do not. If anyone even mentions VNN over on SF, that post will be deleated right away the same way they do other WN sites like Hal Turner's site.

So if you do not like it here don't let the clicker hit you in the ass on your way out.

VNN is for the most part a WN free speech site. Everyone on here has been ridculed at one time or another. This is good in a way it will cause you to grow a thick skin to be able to battle our enemies better.

Most peole do not like free speech unless it is their oew free speech.

You seem to bad mouth VNN a lot. Do you know that we advertise storm front in most of our newspapers and even on our bussines cards? Does SF ever return the favor? No they do not. If anyone even mentions VNN over on SF, that post will be deleated right away the same way they do other WN sites like Hal Turner's site.

I just wanted to say you made some good points. This is a good site to learn to grow a thick skin and to be able to battle our enemies better, because our enemies are not going to play soft ball with us, but hard ball.

I will say, that this site is helping me develop the thick skin because of some of the nasty comments made. I am learning not to be so sensitive and to dish it out. Maybe that is a good thing, maybe that is a bad thing. I don't think it is all bad,because I was to sensitive and got my feelings hurt to easily before.

Saying what is good about VNN, I will say a bad side. You see no site is perfect as no person is perfect. I do see some people gossip and say mean and terrible things about people they have never met in real life, because they don't like a picture. Example, my picture at the 2004 Euro conference. None of you had met me in person, yet, many here on this site, took such delight in saying mean and hurtful things about me, because you didn't know me and base your comments on a picture that wasn't the best picture of me in the world. At the time I felt very upset with some of the nasty comments, like if I was a man or a woman. I was wearing a blue dress with my hair in a pony tail and a blue bow. Do men where dresses and blue hair bows? I live in the hot AZ desert and I sometimes have a sun tan, yet you were saying I was Mexican. I can prove my line all the way to the Mayflower. It is like some people take such delight in judging people by a picture when they have never met them, and making the most nasty comments they can. Yes, I can see why some people would think that they don't want to stay around long enough to get to know VNN and to see the good that VNN is doing.

Both VNN and SF have said terrible things about each other. Look at some of the nasty comments made about the 2004 Euro picture from the people on this site about the different people in the picture. You didn't know us, but you made some really mean and hurtful posts about people who at least cared enough about our race to actually go to the conference and meet and network with other WN and to learn. We also put ourselves out there by being in the picture anyway. I can understand why SF would be weary of refering others here, if they are going to be treated with such scorn just because they were in a picture that you didn't like. SF too have made terrible hateful comments about VNN, such as this is a toxic waste dump and the posters here are toxicoids. That is not true either. VNN has its bad points, but it also has good points. Both sites are trying in their own way to reach our people with the truth, and are fighting for the survival of our race and want a future for White children.

Both sides have treated each other unfairly. I wish there was some way, that both sides and the leadership of both boards would realize that in their own ways they are fighting for the same goal, the survival of our race. We are not going to all love each other. We are not always going to like each other. We are not always going to agree with each other on every point, but we do agree that our race is in danger, and we all agree that we must secure a future of our children and grandchildren. We all agree that the jew is an enemy of our race. We need to come together in real life on issues that we agree with and that will help our race. We need to be able to get the posters from both sites or any WN sites to attend and be active at anti immagration rallies, or any other rally that is going to help us. If VNN is sponoring something that is going to help our race than SF should post it and encourage their members to help out. If SF is sponoring an event, than VNN should encourage their members to support it, and the SF side should be willing to accept that help even it it wants to place conditions on how that support and help is received.

Our enemies know that we are so divided and we hate each other so much that there is no way, that we will ever come together long enough to defeat them. We are loosing this war, and until both sides eat a little crow and put some of their pride and hurt feelings out the window, we will continue to make little progress in this WAR.

Listen, I have done my share of bad comments too in anger. I have a temper. I got angry and I said some things about SF and people there, I wish I hadn't. For my role in increasing the fires of anger I am sorry. I hope with times that the bridges I burned will be able to be rebuilt and in real life we can work together. Until everyone is willing to admit, they all have made mistakes and are willing to take an honest look at our behavior and try to put the past behind us and move forward to limited working in real life on the issues we agree with and show a face of unity to the outside world, we will continue to loose ground here in this war. All sides need to be willing to take an honest look at what works and what hasn't worked and be willling to be open to new ideas that might actually work. It doesn't mean we sugar coat or water down our message. I don't believe in watering down our message, but we need to find ways of working together in real life to achieve power.

I have changed over the past year. I have really changed the past month or so. I realized that this feud between WN is wrong and is not good for the Cause as a whole. I want to win. I want my race to survive. I want my friends new born son to have a future in 21 years when he becomes a man. The way we treat each other, fight each other, and the nasty comments, the gossip, etc is driving more tension, more anger, and is destroying bridges instead of trying to find a way to build and develop bridges where both WN camps can work together in real life events, rallies, etc to make a difference. Now, I am trying to be a peacemaker. I may fail, but I am going to try and see if there is someway, that we can put together all our WN resources and on certain real life issues, events, etc that we can in real life work together and be civil to each other. I would love to see the flame wars, nasty comments, gossip, anger, and bitterness stop. What does it serve when each site finds ways to hurt and bash each other? Why can't both sites just talk about the issues? I believe in free speech. Let's talk about the issues the effect our people, the truth, and try to be people who have honor toward another White Nationalist who in their own way is trying to save our race.

We are fighting a WAR here. This is a REVOLTUION and until we start fighting and working together and realize that we need all White people to be part of the fight, than we will continue to get no where and never win victory. Some people say we don't need any women in the fight, but only young angry males. WRONG, you need White women in the fight, because men can't have babies, can you? So let's put women down and make comments that you don't want women on this site, or that any strong White woman who speaks out for her race is a evil femnist. You will never win the victory, unless you realize that women are very much needed in the fight. We will play a different role, but without us, the WHITE race will have no more babies being born. Some of the comments made on this site, drive women away. Until you realize that to win this REVOLUTION that you need every single White person,(man and woman) who are White Nationalist in the fight we will never WIN. In the American REVOLUTION women played a role. Sometime, if people are interested I will post about it. Do you want to win, or do you want to continue to pursue ways that haven't worked very well up to this point?

Anyway, this past year, I had almost reached the point, where I was so frustrated with some of the attitudes of the so called WN in our cause, I was willing to just say, I am not going to be publically active, but will continue to fight in my own way. This past couple of weeks the Lord has touched my heart, to try and be a peacemaker and try and build bridges instead of tearing them down. I believe we are truly at a crossroads, and 2007 will be a year that will decide if we are going to win or loose this war.

If we continue to fight and hate other WN who are fighting for the same thing, but in a different approch; we will continue to loose ground. I too am guilty of wanting to seperate, but we are no where near that time yet, and we have go to find a way to make an agreement that NO WHITE NATIONALIST no matter how we personally feel about them, or if we even like their approch to how they are working for our race is our enemy, but on the issues we can come together in real life, we will support and help them to make sure that real life event is an success. IF we all can't put our pride and hurt out the window, and all eat a little crow, and admit that we all did things wrong and try and put the past behind us and move on, we will continue to FAIL. Is that what we want? I sure don't want to FAIL. I don't want future generations to hate me, because I couldn't put my pride and anger aside long enough to work together with a fellow WN on issues that we could have joined together and made sure that they were an success if only both sides put aside their hurt and pride long enough to work together on real life events.

Some of you want to ban DA or anyone else who may not exactly agree with you. Yesterday, DA and I talked to each other. We made an attemp to know each other and find areas that we can agree with so that if we were to meet in real life, we could work together to save our race. I haven't met her in person so it is hard to read people just on the internet, but I think she truly loves her country.

She sees the UK going to hell and she wants to stop the non white invasion of her country. That is a good thing. That is a big step forward. I know for me it was one step at a time, before I reached the level I am today. I don't think we should make new people who are just waking up to the truth, feel like crap, because they aren't up to speed on the Jewish threat on our race. We need to encourage them to read books, articles, listen to radio shows, go to conferences that will educate them.

Yes, there are people who will pretend to be with us, but are we going to throw out the baby with the bath water? There are signs of an enemy agent. We need to educate our people on those signs so that they don't fall for it; but we should give all new people a chance to grow in their knowledge because we need every White person to wake up to the truth and join us in this fight.

For now, I hope DA will be allowed to stay. She didn't have to answer my questions but she did. They do have a nice UK section on this board, that if she was treated kindly, might stay long enough to read some of the good information. She might even find fellowship with the other posters on this board who are also from the UK and want to save their homeland. If she proves to be someone who is disruptive and not respectful than yes, that will be the time to ban her, but I think we should give her a chance.

How many of us knew the truth overnight? For me it was one step at a time.

Personally politics isnt for me but for others to win the race every angle is worth a try, so no point in giving up. The only way WN will win is by getting into power.

In UK politics WNs are a sitting duck. It was declared after Griffin walked free that the loop holes in the race hate law would be buttoned up. All he did was call Islam a vile religion which indeed it is, so you can imaging the UKs plight at the moment. This doesnt mean others have given up though, it just means they have to change tactics. Its all game playing as you have pointed out. The most convincing liar wins from what I can see because the truth doesnt seem to get anyone anywhere. What one does and says on the way to the top need not be what one says and does once they are there.

Personally I will stick to the way I work and thats in the community, direct hands on involvement. Its the little people that are the most effective at spreading the word not the politicians.

I am going to disagree that forums are the way to go. VNN, well I wont comment on how the outside WN world views this place but lets just say its living up to its reputation very well. SF is a place for people to vent and get together and at times knock heads as are other self respecting forums. The only way we will get anywhere is by hitting the streets feet first.

It isnt what you say but how you say it, thats the key.

blah blah blah You seem to lament the lack of free speech in the UK, yet you show up on SF, an American forum and try to play the same bullshit games with us.
Over here, you are effectively getting bitch slapped, and now you show some humility. Why don't you, jjt and PAT88 go and have a threeway.

I just wanted to say you made some good points. This is a good site to learn to grow a thick skin and to be able to battle our enemies better, because our enemies are not going to play soft ball with us, but hard ball.

I will say, that this site is helping me develop the thick skin because of some of the nasty comments made. I am learning not to be so sensitive and to dish it out. Maybe that is a good thing, maybe that is a bad thing. I don't think it is all bad,because I was to sensitive and got my feelings hurt to easily before.

Saying what is good about VNN, I will say a bad side. You see no site is perfect as no person is perfect. I do see some people gossip and say mean and terrible things about people they have never met in real life, because they don't like a picture. Example, my picture at the 2004 Euro conference. None of you had met me in person, yet, many here on this site, took such delight in saying mean and hurtful things about me, because you didn't know me and base your comments on a picture that wasn't the best picture of me in the world. At the time I felt very upset with some of the nasty comments, like if I was a man or a woman. I was wearing a blue dress with my hair in a pony tail and a blue bow. Do men where dresses and blue hair bows? I live in the hot AZ desert and I sometimes have a sun tan, yet you were saying I was Mexican. I can prove my line all the way to the Mayflower. It is like some people take such delight in judging people by a picture when they have never met them, and making the most nasty comments they can. Yes, I can see why some people would think that they don't want to stay around long enough to get to know VNN and to see the good that VNN is doing.

Both VNN and SF have said terrible things about each other. Look at some of the nasty comments made about the 2004 Euro picture from the people on this site about the different people in the picture. You didn't know us, but you made some really mean and hurtful posts about people who at least cared enough about our race to actually go to the conference and meet and network with other WN and to learn. We also put ourselves out there by being in the picture anyway. I can understand why SF would be weary of refering others here, if they are going to be treated with such scorn just because they were in a picture that you didn't like. SF too have made terrible hateful comments about VNN, such as this is a toxic waste dump and the posters here are toxicoids. That is not true either. VNN has its bad points, but it also has good points. Both sites are trying in their own way to reach our people with the truth, and are fighting for the survival of our race and want a future for White children.

Both sides have treated each other unfairly. I wish there was some way, that both sides and the leadership of both boards would realize that in their own ways they are fighting for the same goal, the survival of our race. We are not going to all love each other. We are not always going to like each other. We are not always going to agree with each other on every point, but we do agree that our race is in danger, and we all agree that we must secure a future of our children and grandchildren. We all agree that the jew is an enemy of our race. We need to come together in real life on issues that we agree with and that will help our race. We need to be able to get the posters from both sites or any WN sites to attend and be active at anti immagration rallies, or any other rally that is going to help us. If VNN is sponoring something that is going to help our race than SF should post it and encourage their members to help out. If SF is sponoring an event, than VNN should encourage their members to support it, and the SF side should be willing to accept that help even it it wants to place conditions on how that support and help is received.

Our enemies know that we are so divided and we hate each other so much that there is no way, that we will ever come together long enough to defeat them. We are loosing this war, and until both sides eat a little crow and put some of their pride and hurt feelings out the window, we will continue to make little progress in this WAR.

Listen, I have done my share of bad comments too in anger. I have a temper. I got angry and I said some things about SF and people there, I wish I hadn't. For my role in increasing the fires of anger I am sorry. I hope with times that the bridges I burned will be able to be rebuilt and in real life we can work together. Until everyone is willing to admit, they all have made mistakes and are willing to take an honest look at our behavior and try to put the past behind us and move forward to limited working in real life on the issues we agree with and show a face of unity to the outside world, we will continue to loose ground here in this war. All sides need to be willing to take an honest look at what works and what hasn't worked and be willling to be open to new ideas that might actually work. It doesn't mean we sugar coat or water down our message. I don't believe in watering down our message, but we need to find ways of working together in real life to achieve power.

I have changed over the past year. I have really changed the past month or so. I realized that this feud between WN is wrong and is not good for the Cause as a whole. I want to win. I want my race to survive. I want my friends new born son to have a future in 21 years when he becomes a man. The way we treat each other, fight each other, and the nasty comments, the gossip, etc is driving more tension, more anger, and is destroying bridges instead of trying to find a way to build and develop bridges where both WN camps can work together in real life events, rallies, etc to make a difference. Now, I am trying to be a peacemaker. I may fail, but I am going to try and see if there is someway, that we can put together all our WN resources and on certain real life issues, events, etc that we can in real life work together and be civil to each other. I would love to see the flame wars, nasty comments, gossip, anger, and bitterness stop. What does it serve when each site finds ways to hurt and bash each other? Why can't both sites just talk about the issues? I believe in free speech. Let's talk about the issues the effect our people, the truth, and try to be people who have honor toward another White Nationalist who in their own way is trying to save our race.

We are fighting a WAR here. This is a REVOLTUION and until we start fighting and working together and realize that we need all White people to be part of the fight, than we will continue to get no where and never win victory. Some people say we don't need any women in the fight, but only young angry males. WRONG, you need White women in the fight, because men can't have babies, can you? So let's put women down and make comments that you don't want women on this site, or that any strong White woman who speaks out for her race is a evil femnist. You will never win the victory, unless you realize that women are very much needed in the fight. We will play a different role, but without us, the WHITE race will have no more babies being born. Some of the comments made on this site, drive women away. Until you realize that to win this REVOLUTION that you need every single White person,(man and woman) who are White Nationalist in the fight we will never WIN. In the American REVOLUTION women played a role. Sometime, if people are interested I will post about it. Do you want to win, or do you want to continue to pursue ways that haven't worked very well up to this point?

Anyway, this past year, I had almost reached the point, where I was so frustrated with some of the attitudes of the so called WN in our cause, I was willing to just say, I am not going to be publically active, but will continue to fight in my own way. This past couple of weeks the Lord has touched my heart, to try and be a peacemaker and try and build bridges instead of tearing them down. I believe we are truly at a crossroads, and 2007 will be a year that will decide if we are going to win or loose this war.

If we continue to fight and hate other WN who are fighting for the same thing, but in a different approch]

Ah, dear lady, your kind words are a treasure to listen, but reality is a bit different. People are so uncaring: during the last month SF banned over 500 members, both sustaining and ordinary, over MuadDib and NorseStar, my sources indicate, in order to preserve one jew appeaser, and his beloved group of enemy moles. Most of these members were further maligned and defamed. I think banning one disruptive nigger is not an unreasonable thing to do, is it?

 

Ah, dear lady, your kind words are a treasure to listen, but reality is a bit different. People are so uncaring: during the last month SF banned over 500 members, both sustaining and ordinary, over MuadDib and NorseStar, my sources indicate, in order to preserve one jew appeaser, and his beloved group of enemy moles. Most of these members were further maligned and defamed. I think banning one disruptive nigger is not an unreasonable thing to do, is it?

I know the evil way, that SF treated Wayne and Norsestar. Why do you think I got so angry with SF in the first place? Wayne is a very dear friend to me and has been for years. For the last few years, I felt that Wayne was not being treated fairly. Because of the way my dear friend was being treated by the powers that be on SF, my anger and bitterness was growing and growing by the day. SF also knew that I am very loyal to my friends. They knew that Wayne was a dear friend of mine, so I am sure that they knew that I would support and be a loyal friend to Wayne.

Norsestar has also became a very dear friend to me. I also got very angry at the way she has been treated. JB said some very hurtful and mean things about her. He got angry and acted out of anger. I truly believe that, because I know I got angry and acted and said things about him and SF out of anger. I do hope, and I have met JB in person and thought he was a good man, that when he has a chance to calm down and think about the hurtful and mean things that he will contact Norsestar and admit he was wrong and say he is sorry. I am hoping that he will be man enough to do the right thing and say he is sorry for some of the terrible and mean things he said about a very sweet and dear lady who he hurt very badly.

I ask you, DO YOU WANT TO WIN THIS WAR? DO YOU WANT TO WIN A FUTURE FOR OUR RACE? If we are destroying and tearing down bridges instead of building bridges and all WHITE NATIONALIST AND WHITE PEOPLE WHO ARE FIGHTING FOR A FUTURE FOR WHITE CHILDREN can't come together and in real life work together on events that will help get our message out, rallys that will help our race, etc, and we continue to burn with such anger, bitterness, and hatred for each other, how will we ever WIN?

All this anger, bitterness and hatred we are feeling is not hurting the other guy, but it is HURTING US AND THE FIGHT FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR RACE, AND OUR WINNING THE WAR SO THAT OUR CHILDREN HAVE A GOOD FUTURE INSTEAD OF A BLEAK AND TERRIBLE ONE. For the sake of the future of White children, isn't it better to put this anger aside and stop blaming each other and put that behind us, roll up our sleeves and find a way to in real life work to DEFEAT THE ENEMY(THE JEW) WHO IS DESTROYING OUR RACE?

I hate what SF has done to Wayne and Norsestar!!!!!!! I AM NOT SAYING THAT WE FORGET, but I am saying that we need to find a way to fogive to the point that we can put what is best for our race and find a way for all WN to work together in real life on common issues.

I have met both JB, DB and others in person. There are still some really good people who are also dear friends of mine who are still mods there. I may be pollyanna, but I have to believe because I have heard stories about what a caring, wonderful person DB is to another very dear friend of mine. I have to believe that in time, if we offer the hand of trying to resolve this that they too will be willing to find a way to seek peace and work for what is best for our race.
I am not saying that we all go back to SF, but, for the good and future of our race, we need to reach the place where every single WN should be treated with honor and respect.

Is SF innocent of all wrongdoing? NO, they didn't treat Wayne with honor or respect, why do you think I got so angry with them? Why do you think my bitterness grew and grew and grew to the point that I wanted to hurt them the way they hurted Wayne. Why do you think I got so angry for what they did to Norsestar? If they are willing to admit and be honest with themselves that they did some things that were wrong and are willing to admit that than that is a big step forward in reparing a bridge so that we can at least work together to save our race. I don't want us to be afraid to go to a rally or real life event because it is SF sponored or SF will be there. I want this feud to end.

Maybe it isn't real life, but I look around me, and things are getting more bleak for my race. WE ARE FAILING. WE HAVE NOT ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING, but in fact, things are getting worst for our race. I truly believe in my heart that 2007 is a year that we are in the crossroads. For the future of my race, I am willing to try and repair bridges with the hope that by putting all this crap and hatred behind us and we can move forward stronger and more united in real life. The internet is the internet. So what if we don't post on SF, it is not the end of the world,but it is important that in REAL LIFE and on the streets that we can be adult enough to work together on common issues that effect our race.

My heart is pure. My intentions are pure. I want to put all this anger and bitterness to be put behind us, so that we as WN can put forth our efforts on what is really important to me and that is SAVING OUR RACE AND NOT IN FIGHTING EACH OTHER.

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Ah, dear lady, your kind words are a treasure to listen, but reality is a bit different. People are so uncaring: during the last month SF banned over 500 members, both sustaining and ordinary, over MuadDib and NorseStar, my sources indicate, in order to preserve one jew appeaser, and his beloved group of enemy moles. Most of these members were further maligned and defamed. I think banning one disruptive nigger is not an unreasonable thing to do, is it?
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That many??? Sheesh, I know I've got to be on the list then. I didn't know about that. Hell, there's a lot I don't know about and some things I wish I didn't read.

It's sad cause I like lurking and reading at all the various sites. Sometimes getting involved other times not. Though I tend to stay away from the Newsgroup stuff anymore after finding SF, VNN, NatPar, WS and etc. Hoping WS will be back online soon too.

I agree Cammie and cannot understand some people sometimes, especially those who've been close and met in person and etc. But like I've always said people change and most have a price. It takes years to know someone, really know someone through trials and tribulations. Even then they may do a flip flop on us with a big surprise.

Hell, I thought it was all over with years ago until this super highway net came along then found others still out there a bit like me, but I always have my doubts and what I write about or fore-see normally happens, nothing changes and people will be people. Same thing here with all these issues. Only deal is that truths and posts are now down the memory hole and things covered up and side-stepped. I guess many haven't paid attention or didn't see some of the posts or who said or was requiring SF to change or else. You know the many celebrities we are supposed to bow to automatically. Some openly stated they would not support the board continuing to be radical compared to most Englanders I guess, among other things then move by move it slid that direction.

Okay, then the providers. All they have to do is be upfront and not like regular posters jabbing or instigating. Pertaining to SF it's Don's board so he can do whatever, however, he should openly state which direction he wants 'his' board to go or who to throw his support towards. Like what I am lead to believe or assume. Some know some things others don't and won't.
I got to read posts and email that others didn't and I know I'm not alone. There is alot I don't know of or about. Like I don't know who he even supports for President among other things because of a line of silence and list of need to know companions... clique or not. Side-stepping, confusion, gossip, allowing gossip and rumors to abound is not good at all if ones goal is unity. But other issues and 'thing's' come first as usual and always will.

I can sure tell who is jumping for joy at all the division and still continue to instigate and hardly reluctant to express their little victory or what they think is a victory.

The BNP is not America. If people want to sway toward that people should just have the balls to openly state their beliefs and direction. Way too much game playing and specific people pleasing. It's all in the communication and communication from the top down, not letting things go until anger is stirred or someone is tag teamed to disgust and blowing up.

Fun ain't it?

There's just too many issues and if true - too much money and stroking going on to find an end to all this. I mean Christ, if a person cannot even dispute topics like PeTA or feminism or yes Jews and Israel something is sadly wrong and way over the top of mainstreaming to please instead of putting priorities and survival first. Those same ones don't have to or must not have ever had to worry about survival, paying the bills, and on and on. Sure some may write or put out some good stuff for WNism but that doesn't make them a god or should have a major say from a foreign country about what we should do or say. IMHO.

If support, respect, compassion, concern, communication, understanding and etcetera is supposed to be just one sided, or expected, and one sided only what's the use? If true friendship and common goals aren't there then it just isn't there. If some simply don't care like implied they won't later on, or will have concern for the individual. If all are expendable except for the cash cows and prestige(?) then those are personal choices. Where the heart is thats where the heart is, and I don't need to hear someone spout off about being righteous or Christian or something either. Actions speak louder than words and too much coverup.

It's all really sad and people wonder why I'm a cautious stone cold pessimist.

Oh well, have a good one folks. :cheers:

I know the evil way, that SF treated Wayne and Norsestar. Why do you think I got so angry with SF in the first place? Wayne is a very dear friend to me and has been for years. For the last few years, I felt that Wayne was not being treated fairly. Because of the way my dear friend was being treated by the powers that be on SF, my anger and bitterness was growing and growing by the day. SF also knew that I am very loyal to my friends. They knew that Wayne was a dear friend of mine, so I am sure that they knew that I would support and be a loyal friend to Wayne.

Norsestar has also became a very dear friend to me. I also got very angry at the way she has been treated. JB said some very hurtful and mean things about her. He got angry and acted out of anger. I truly believe that, because I know I got angry and acted and said things about him and SF out of anger. I do hope, and I have met JB in person and thought he was a good man, that when he has a chance to calm down and think about the hurtful and mean things that he will contact Norsestar and admit he was wrong and say he is sorry. I am hoping that he will be man enough to do the right thing and say he is sorry for some of the terrible and mean things he said about a very sweet and dear lady who he hurt very badly.

I ask you, DO YOU WANT TO WIN THIS WAR? DO YOU WANT TO WIN A FUTURE FOR OUR RACE? If we are destroying and tearing down bridges instead of building bridges and all WHITE NATIONALIST AND WHITE PEOPLE WHO ARE FIGHTING FOR A FUTURE FOR WHITE CHILDREN can't come together and in real life work together on events that will help get our message out, rallys that will help our race, etc, and we continue to burn with such anger, bitterness, and hatred for each other, how will we ever WIN?

All this anger, bitterness and hatred we are feeling is not hurting the other guy, but it is HURTING US AND THE FIGHT FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR RACE, AND OUR WINNING THE WAR SO THAT OUR CHILDREN HAVE A GOOD FUTURE INSTEAD OF A BLEAK AND TERRIBLE ONE. For the sake of the future of White children, isn't it better to put this anger aside and stop blaming each other and put that behind us, roll up our sleeves and find a way to in real life work to DEFEAT THE ENEMY(THE JEW) WHO IS DESTROYING OUR RACE?

I hate what SF has done to Wayne and Norsestar!!!!!!! I AM NOT SAYING THAT WE FORGET, but I am saying that we need to find a way to fogive to the point that we can put what is best for our race and find a way for all WN to work together in real life on common issues.

I have met both JB, DB and others in person. There are still some really good people who are also dear friends of mine who are still mods there. I may be pollyanna, but I have to believe because I have heard stories about what a caring, wonderful person DB is to another very dear friend of mine. I have to believe that in time, if we offer the hand of trying to resolve this that they too will be willing to find a way to seek peace and work for what is best for our race.
I am not saying that we all go back to SF, but, for the good and future of our race, we need to reach the place where every single WN should be treated with honor and respect.

Is SF innocent of all wrongdoing? NO, they didn't treat Wayne with honor or respect, why do you think I got so angry with them? Why do you think my bitterness grew and grew and grew to the point that I wanted to hurt them the way they hurted Wayne. Why do you think I got so angry for what they did to Norsestar? If they are willing to admit and be honest with themselves that they did some things that were wrong and are willing to admit that than that is a big step forward in reparing a bridge so that we can at least work together to save our race. I don't want us to be afraid to go to a rally or real life event because it is SF sponored or SF will be there. I want this feud to end.

Maybe it isn't real life, but I look around me, and things are getting more bleak for my race. WE ARE FAILING. WE HAVE NOT ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING, but in fact, things are getting worst for our race. I truly believe in my heart that 2007 is a year that we are in the crossroads. For the future of my race, I am willing to try and repair bridges with the hope that by putting all this crap and hatred behind us and we can move forward stronger and more united in real life. The internet is the internet. So what if we don't post on SF, it is not the end of the world,but it is important that in REAL LIFE and on the streets that we can be adult enough to work together on common issues that effect our race.

My heart is pure. My intentions are pure. I want to put all this anger and bitterness to be put behind us, so that we as WN can put forth our efforts on what is really important to me and that is SAVING OUR RACE AND NOT IN FIGHTING EACH OTHER.

The republican party used to be for whites, at a certain point now they are even worse than the democrats. If Sf is compromised, which it is, it will be nothing more than a john birch type whine fest.

Listen people itz not rocket science - Johnny Jew Tree gives Donny Boy quite a 'bung' thats English for a lot of dosh per year. That is why he is allowed to run rough shod over the whole forum. As you all know Jew Tree is English and in fact lives in Sussex, has jewish and mud friends. He is a BNP member and takes all this to the SF Board with a passion.

The BNP has this utter cloth head going by the name of Lee Barnes LLC Hons. who likes to publish articles on the BNP website pushing a 'pro Israel' stance. Griffin doesn't do anything to stop it, so it comes from the very top.

With regards DA or is that Odins Eye I understand her step father was a coon and not her biological father who was White ... or so I am lead to believe. She was the loadest defender of Griffin on SF .. until she came up close and personal to what we know about Nicholas Griffin since the early 1970's .. that he is an utter wanker !!

Reading all the posts here from the banned SF members, it seems more like a social club, than a political forum. Hurt feelings, regrets, You need to shake this crap off once and forall - we are in a GD WAR with the GD KIKES and assorted filth .... Get out of the garden and GET INTO the trenches !!

...Reading all the posts here from the banned SF members, it seems more like a social club, than a political forum. Hurt feelings, regrets, You need to shake this crap off once and forall - we are in a GD WAR with the GD KIKES and assorted filth .... Get out of the garden and GET INTO the trenches !!

Is that what all this gossip is about, WD? Banned StormFronters? I thought I had stumbled in on Oprah or The View, or something.

"Reading all the posts here from the banned SF members, it seems more like a social club, than a political forum. Hurt feelings, regrets, You need to shake this crap off once and forall - we are in a GD WAR with the GD KIKES and assorted filth .... Get out of the garden and GET INTO the trenches !!"

Don't let my few posts here fool ya. I been in the trenches and I'm old enough and tore up enough to be trenched out. The younger ones can take over the rough stuff if thats what your talking about. I'm not wealthy either, nor is there a crew around close by. Yes, another loner in a community of sheep and controllers. So, I guess I'm kinda waiting for the movement to catch up or do something on a Earth shaking scale. I'm not taking anything else on alone at my stage in the game. I do now what I can do. I'll let others brag about how they are changing the world.

My only regrets and hurt feelings are from past actions alone and losing for nothing and this is a new thing called war? Yep, there are some things I need to shake off.

No, I was not banned either, I'm too cute.

Is that what all this gossip is about, WD? Banned StormFronters? I thought I had stumbled in on Oprah or The View, or something.

That would be Dr. Phil

Is that what all this gossip is about, WD? Banned StormFronters? I thought I had stumbled in on Oprah or The View, or something.

LOL

Some of you folks need to learn the meaning of a private email.

Communication........Censorship
Forums.........Clubs
Gossip.....Information
Blah Blah.

What's useful and what isn't? Whose to say. If not for some soap operas, a touch of chaos and common chatter not much information would be passed around or little items known like WD mentioned. Some enjoy information in all forms some don't. All forums, discussion is the same, there are always those who wish to stifle communication and topics. What's not allowed on one board can always be discussed on another. I thought VNN was more open to freedom of speech.

Everyone wants to rule the world.